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	<title>Comments on: Facebook Group &gt; Facebook Page</title>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://uncontrolledvocabulary.com/2008/04/20/facebook-group-facebook-page/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember that the UV Facebook presence is not new, just that I&#039;ve switched from a Group to a Page. 

The main advantage of Facebook presence is that people are there and willing to openly show their support of the show. 270 people are in the group and 120 are on the page. Lots of overlap there, but  it&#039;s the strongest indicator of a community surrounding the show that I have.  MyBlogLog would do similar things, but few use it. It&#039;s a one-trick pony in comparison.   

Given the limited amount of actual feedback that the show gets, I&#039;m not concerned that a lot of content is going to be created on Facebook that one would wish was somewhere else. But the question of ownership you raise is a good one and is precisely what the whole Data Portability effort is about. 

I&#039;m happy to see conversations here. I&#039;m happy to see them there. I&#039;m just happy to see them at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember that the UV Facebook presence is not new, just that I&#8217;ve switched from a Group to a Page. </p>
<p>The main advantage of Facebook presence is that people are there and willing to openly show their support of the show. 270 people are in the group and 120 are on the page. Lots of overlap there, but  it&#8217;s the strongest indicator of a community surrounding the show that I have.  MyBlogLog would do similar things, but few use it. It&#8217;s a one-trick pony in comparison.   </p>
<p>Given the limited amount of actual feedback that the show gets, I&#8217;m not concerned that a lot of content is going to be created on Facebook that one would wish was somewhere else. But the question of ownership you raise is a good one and is precisely what the whole Data Portability effort is about. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy to see conversations here. I&#8217;m happy to see them there. I&#8217;m just happy to see them at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie Crosby</title>
		<link>http://uncontrolledvocabulary.com/2008/04/20/facebook-group-facebook-page/comment-page-1/#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Connie Crosby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question I have in general about creating content/discussion over in Facebook is what happens to the discussion in this sort of space that is more open to the web.  What advantages are there to the Facebook space?  One would be that you can actually see who specifically is &quot;signed up&quot; and you can therefore tailor messaging to those people specifically.  Also you might be able to create more interaction between people since they can also add their own content--photos, videos, wall posts.  

It will be interesting to see for this community if they take any better to providing you feedback for the show through Facebook than they do here on the blog. (feed back...face book... FB.... coincidence?)

The one disadvantage is that, for anyone not participating in Facebook, the conversation has now shifted away from this open space to a &quot;walled garden&quot;. Also, when discussion or other content is created over in Facebook, who now owns that content? Has FB changed its terms of service so that you/your community owns the content, or does it belong to Facebook (guess I should go over and read the current user license agreement).

Anyway, just a few random thoughts, no judgment.  I am just interested to see how this plays out for Uncontrolled Vocabulary and for others.

Cheers,
Connie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question I have in general about creating content/discussion over in Facebook is what happens to the discussion in this sort of space that is more open to the web.  What advantages are there to the Facebook space?  One would be that you can actually see who specifically is &#8220;signed up&#8221; and you can therefore tailor messaging to those people specifically.  Also you might be able to create more interaction between people since they can also add their own content&#8211;photos, videos, wall posts.  </p>
<p>It will be interesting to see for this community if they take any better to providing you feedback for the show through Facebook than they do here on the blog. (feed back&#8230;face book&#8230; FB&#8230;. coincidence?)</p>
<p>The one disadvantage is that, for anyone not participating in Facebook, the conversation has now shifted away from this open space to a &#8220;walled garden&#8221;. Also, when discussion or other content is created over in Facebook, who now owns that content? Has FB changed its terms of service so that you/your community owns the content, or does it belong to Facebook (guess I should go over and read the current user license agreement).</p>
<p>Anyway, just a few random thoughts, no judgment.  I am just interested to see how this plays out for Uncontrolled Vocabulary and for others.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Connie</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess I haven&#039;t had them both long enough to know what the long term strain will be. My goal is still to get as many people over to the Page as possible. Tomorrow, I&#039;ll send out my first message to the entire Group since I set up the Page and I&#039;ll be asking them to join the Page, whether they remain part of the Group or not. 

My goal is to do all my updating and notices through the Page, but I can&#039;t imagine that I&#039;ll totally ignore the group, since there are almost four times as many people there at present. The Page has twice as many members as when I posted here though, so it&#039;s growing nicely. 

Let me get back to you in a few weeks and see how I&#039;m feeling about it.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting!

-Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess I haven&#8217;t had them both long enough to know what the long term strain will be. My goal is still to get as many people over to the Page as possible. Tomorrow, I&#8217;ll send out my first message to the entire Group since I set up the Page and I&#8217;ll be asking them to join the Page, whether they remain part of the Group or not. </p>
<p>My goal is to do all my updating and notices through the Page, but I can&#8217;t imagine that I&#8217;ll totally ignore the group, since there are almost four times as many people there at present. The Page has twice as many members as when I posted here though, so it&#8217;s growing nicely. </p>
<p>Let me get back to you in a few weeks and see how I&#8217;m feeling about it.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by and commenting!</p>
<p>-Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Saxton</title>
		<link>http://uncontrolledvocabulary.com/2008/04/20/facebook-group-facebook-page/comment-page-1/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Saxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Greg,

Thanks for stopping by my blog earlier. Since you&#039;re having both a facebook group and a facebook page, I was just curious if you had any problems with keeping both sites running. 

Thanks again!

Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Greg,</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by my blog earlier. Since you&#8217;re having both a facebook group and a facebook page, I was just curious if you had any problems with keeping both sites running. </p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
<p>Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: Facebook Marketing &#171; Stop the (Word)Press</title>
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		<dc:creator>Facebook Marketing &#171; Stop the (Word)Press</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 04:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tim at Tim&#8217;s Blog discuss the pros and cons of Facebook groups and pages, while the author of Uncontrolled Vocablulary talks about how hard it is for people to switch over from groups to [...]</description>
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